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Following is an email exchange between Stuart and a seeker
who contacted Stuart via email
Hi Stuart,
I met you Saturday at Satsang.
I never do this, but I feel compelled to ask you something, to actually follow
up with a question. You seem grounded to me, tough enough to answer me straight
so that I can ask you this.
I have been a spiritual seeker since the beginning of this life. I've also been
quite angry at god. From the very beginning of my consciousness. I cannot
forgive his (the) apparent cruelty of life, of separation and the agony it
causes the individual beings (yes, yes, yes, I know that it's just projected,
that ultimately we are one...but crap, I'm concerned with the reality of
individualized emotions, because that is real to me). I do identify with the
self... I know that is not the real me, but that is where my identity is. And
from this perspective, God sucks. The perfection that is...bites. I have been
angry at God since the beginning of memory. I have seen horrible cruelty dealt
to animals around me (and yes, they do suffer and we do suffer) and to humans,
that I can't accept the concept of perfection when pain is so real to the
identified consciousness. Yes, I know, intellectually, that the separate
individual cannot really exist, I know that my suffering is ultimately unreal,
a dream, but that knowledge doesn't help...at all - I hate that it seems real
to others or to me. I know that ultimately, it is a dream, but emotionally I'm
so angry at my awareness and memory of violence and cruelty that I can't
forgive life. It is a horrible joke to play on innocent personalized
self-manifestations of Self. I can't stand that perfection contains and
condones violence to innocent players...(yes, I mean innocent, all of nature
feels innocent).
I know that this kind of reaction won't make you barf...you may chuckle, you
recognize the pattern; but I sense that you might respond to this. I am
sincere. It is an obstacle to me... And yes, I'm writing from the identified
self, because that is where the obstacle is. I don't want a "beautiful, all is
love answer, or it doesn't matter from the "big picture" no one exists so no
one was actually affected ...or my favorite line, "Who wants to know?" I get
advaita, but I hate it. I just can't stand that Love can bring in such black
drama...
You, as a parent, or a responsible being, would never knowingly subject those
that depend on you to the type of cruelty that this life does...again and again
and again...
I know intellectually that there is no "where" or "why" and that the only
appropriate answer is a chuckle or a sigh, or a , she'll eventually see the
light, or she won't, no matter...but perhaps there is an angle that you've seen
that you can tell me about...or a gut reaction that might make sense of this
anger to me...
At the very least, I trusted enough to express this.
Sincerely,
<name withheld>
Response from Stuart:
Hello,
There is no answer that I can give your mind that it will accept. Everyone has
an issue that places their personal will against God's will. You could say it
is the cross one has to bear, that which can not be accepted no matter what one
knows and what one believes about universal love.
That said, I will share with you my take on the issue.
God is a concept created by people. Consciousness is self contained. It
knows nothing else. The world is not in it. When we enter consciousness, all
concepts, even self identity, disappears, and it interpenetrates this --
whatever your want to call it -- and makes itself known as us. We reverse from
knowing ourselves as a body/mind and eventually, we know ourselves as
being Pure Conscious having a form to interact in the crazy beautiful story.
This world as we know it is made up of our beliefs, desires, and concepts, and
no one can ever convince one otherwise when your mind is operating, ever. As
long as you hate the wrong you are justified in having the rage. Ego is
brilliant in keeping control. If you see that and are willing to get off your
position, even for a moment, you have surrendered and there is a possibility of
a different picture out there for you to see.
Eventually you become aware that what you see of the world is what your mind is
holding. That becomes your experience; you have become the power and the world
can not fool you anymore.
In the love of truth,
Stuart
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